Comments on: Waiting for the News Media to Show Up

By: Don Marsh

Don Marsh — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 09:03:36 +0000

I don’t think it’s “thousands” but it doesn’t have to be. But whatever it is, you consider it a trifle. And all this housing and employment that are being denied to the “thousands” of transgendered persons is also a matter that stretches credulity.

So far, all the discrimination I have heard described took place in another town in another time and we in Gainesville are supposed to shut up and roll over to these testimonies. Fortunately, ours is a democratic republic, and the people will have a say on march 24.

By: Taonga Leslie

Taonga Leslie — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:10:06 +0000

I guess equal housing and employment is a trifle campared with the thousands of bathroom crimes that we hear so many complaints about? (added by Mobile using Mippin)

By: Don Marsh

Don Marsh — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:13:33 +0000

Yeah. This will go down in history as the Bathroom Holocaust. You should be embarrassed to make such a comparison.

By: Taonga Leslie

Taonga Leslie — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:52:48 +0000

I’m saddened that someone could say that in this day and age. That someone cares that little for others. Why don’t we remove rights for the blacks too? They commit lots of crimes. And the Japanese can go back to concentration camps. Better safe than sorry, no?

“When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.”

By: Don Marsh

Don Marsh — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:40:18 +0000

Sounds like a “scare tactic” to me. Business people and landlords want customers and tenants. Employers need good employees. Nobody needs a predator or voyeur in the ladies room…

By: Taonga Leslie

Taonga Leslie — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:45:01 +0000

That was a non sequitur. The authors of the amendment could have worded it to only remove the transgender bathroom issue. Nothing stopped them from focusing on the bathroom issue. Their deliberate wording to remove all rights for gender identity and sexual orientation (an unrelated category) shows they have a secret prejudiced agenda. So here’s my question: Are you ok with gay citizens being fired from their jobs, kicked out of their homes, or kicked out of restaurants? Because that is what this bill will allow.

By: Don Marsh

Don Marsh — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:12:57 +0000

Call your city commissioners if you don’t like it. They asked for this when they would not compromise.

By: Taonga Leslie

Taonga Leslie — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:16:10 +0000

In response to Ron McVicar: your impassioned poorly thought out and judgmental views show that you are just as prejudiced as the authors of this bill.

As for Ron Marsh: your standpoint and solution to the transgender bathrooms issue would be good but that has little to nothing to do with Charter Amendment One. Charter Amendment One deletes the portions of our city charter regarding gender identity AND sexual orientation. BATHROOMS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SEXUAL ORIENTATION. Are you honestly suggesting it would have been too difficult to only target only the paragraph or two referencing who uses what bathrooms?
That’s completely ridiculous. The authors of the bill deliberately framed it so it allows housing and job discrimination against LGBT citizens. Even calling it the “transgender ordinance” is dishonest as that issue is only a small component.

By: Ron McVicar

Ron McVicar — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 04:59:59 +0000

I have no vendetta against Christianity. I do get angry when any group of people is motivated by superstition or unfounded fear and yet claim they are being “rational” it is a farce.

It is no coincidence that scriptural literalists have been the major opponents to equal rights for homosexuals and now Transsexuals over the last forty years. The Mormon’s championed it in California’s last election. The Intelligent design debate is also another example.

Have you done your homework? I’ve done a little. Seattle includes in it’s definition for it’s use of “Gender orientation” this. “including a person’s attitudes,
preferences, beliefs, and practices pertaining thereto” That was in 1986

Sounds a lot like “inner sense” to me.

By: Don Marsh

Don Marsh — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:53:13 +0000

You are making that number up. It’s false. There is no way there are 108 other communities in the US stupid enough to give a man the right to go into a ladies room if he has an “inner sense” of being female. Only Gainesville is that “special”. Go find me another city with that kind of idiotic rule.

You are using The Big Lie tactics, Ronnie. Saying it over and over does not make it true. I have gone on record on this website saying that if a transgendered person had a doctor’s orders that he/she was undergoing sex change procedures that I would not object to him/her using the facilities that would be used in the future state of being (or whatever you want to call it).

For all the whining you do about Christians and what you believe they are thinking and feeling, you are incredibly judgmental. And self-righteous.

I’m sure there are some people who will vote for Charter One who are mean and nasty haters of transgendered people. Just as there are some people who will vote AGAINST it because they have all kinds of vendettas against churches and personal scores to settle that they are projecting on people who don’t agree with their politics. Would you like to round up all of these people and keep them from voting?